The Real Reason The Permanent Political Class Is Freaking Out Over Jeremy Corbyn

LONDON, ENGLAND - JULY 16: Jeremy Corbyn poses for a portrait on July 16, 2015 in London, England. Jeremy Bernard Corbyn is a British Labour Party politician and has been a member of Parliament for Islington North since 1983. He is currently a contender for the position as leader of the Labour Party. (Photo by Dan Kitwood/Getty Images)

LONDON, ENGLAND – JULY 16: Jeremy Corbyn poses for a portrait on July 16, 2015 in London, England. Jeremy Bernard Corbyn is a British Labour Party politician and has been a member of Parliament for Islington North since 1983. He is currently a contender for the position as leader of the Labour Party. (Photo by Dan Kitwood/Getty Images)

A quick scan of social media and mainstream news sources today should alert you to the fact that the war against Jeremy Corbyn and his hew front bench has already begun. This is because the permanent political class are freaking out over Corbyn’s win and how it imperils their grip on power. Here is how.

Over with the Labour establishment, their reaction was best captured by the purge, scaremongering and refusal to work with a Corbyn front bench.

The reason Labour had a new leadership election process this time round, was the result of the parliamentary Labour Party and the NEC long term efforts to diminish the power of Trade Unions. By widening the vote to Labour voters, and quieting the voice of Trade Unions, the Blairite factions of the party gambled on those new voters being to the right of the Unions.

But they got a shock. It turned out that many were actually well to the left, and ready to take a chance on a social democrat like Corbyn. So, the Party responded to those new supporters as ‘infiltrators’.

This was a bizarre move, because if Labour don’t win back these voters, they are sunk in 2020. Labour need to win an extra 106 seats next election to gain a majority, an almost impossible task. But that almost impossible task becomes totally impossible without a mass, popular movement to reengage the public. Just 24% of people voted Conservative in the last election, 76% didn’t. The largest gains went to socially democratic populists the SNP, who killed Labour in Scotland. The biggest losers were the Liberal Democrats, the only ‘centrist’ party in town.

So why would the Parliamentary Labour Party NOT want to harness the power of a populist, social democratic movement? Especially when it is the only chance they have of regaining office in 2020.

It is becoming ever more clear that the Labour Party in Westminster has become a part of a permanent political class alongside their Tory and Liberal Democrat counterparts. Disengagement and voter apathy means a fairly stable job, a few seats lost and won either way each election and no big surprises. The chance to earn a great wage and pass policies which guarantee lucrative consultancy/director roles after politics. All done with the passive acceptance of a disaffected electorate, half of whom don’t even bother to vote anymore. To this permanent political class, a popular movement based on social democratic values is about as welcome as a fart in an elevator.

This is why Harriet Harman planned to cull over 100,000 so-called ‘infiltrators’ from the vote. This is why self-appointed voice-of-the-left Polly Toynbee, the Guardian editorial team, and most of the press (right and liberal) were busily character assassinating Corbyn and anyone who would give him their vote.

But despite all efforts, Corbyn won with a greater landslide in 2015, than Blair did in 1994. The ‘unelectable’ Corbyn galvanized a thumping majority against a hostile media, commentariat and even parliamentary party.

How did the conservative permanent political class respond? They freaked out. This freak out is best summed up by this near-hysterical tweet by Prime Minister David Cameron.

B007How did the public respond to the Corbyn win?

Over 15,000 people joined the Labour Party within 24 hours, and they’re still joining. This is significant. Back in 2011, political party membership in the UK was at an all time low; just 0.8% of eligible adults in the UK were members of political parties, versus 3.8% in 1983. But while general membership was in decline, membership of ‘other’ parties was on a steep rise. This was a signpost that perhaps the problem was not the apathy of the public to politics, but the apathy of the political class to the aspirations and values of the public.

But since the No Vote in Scotland, the rise of the SNP and Greens north of the border, and the victory of Corbyn – large sections of the public are reengaging with the political system again in ways not witnessed for decades.

Between 2002 and 2013, the SNP membership grew to just over 20,000. In the two year since, it rocketed to well over 100,000.

With it’s freshly-arrived members, the Labour Party now has around 290,000 members – more than the Conservatives (134,000), Liberal Democrats (61,000) and Green’s (60,000) combined.

Furthermore, it appears that Jeremy Corbyn and his front bench plan to galvanize the power of this membership to bring democracy into policy making. In short, it looks like Labour members will be supporting policy development in a way unheard of by mainstream parties before now. This would remove the power of the front bench and parliamentary party to act against the will of the membership – this should empower Corbyn’s team to drive through the radical social democratic policies he has in mind.

In short, there is now a distinct possibility not only that a truly progressive, social democrat Labour Party could win in 2020, but worse, that they could topple an unpopular Tory government even before then. An unconstrained Labour Party with Corbyn at its head, and John McDonnell as shadow Chancellor could deliver the sort of coordinated opposition, uniting with workers and their unions, disenfranchised groups and their campaign groups – to start landing big punches now. The sorts of actions that Blue Labour would never take, could now be back on the table. There could be general strikes, there could be mass rallies utilising the full power of these groups, there could be the kind of concerted, unrelenting uproar that tore the Tory Party apart in the early 1990’s.

The permanent political class is freaking out because the only thing that can beat out Project Fear, is Project Hope. A Tory-lite Labour opposition was never going to win in 2020, but an energetic and awakened Labour movement can. Even worse, if they do win, there is a very real chance that the domestic and foreign policy of Britain could change in a truly radical way. We could be a few years away from the most progressive government since Clement Attlee’s post-WWII government delivered the NHS, a national education system, nationalised transport and energy, and rolled out the biggest social housing programme in our history. This is an electoral choice that the UK hasn’t had the opportunity to make in decades.

The permanent political class is facing the most real and present threat to their power since 1979. They are going to throw every weapon in their armory at ensuring that doesn’t happen. But none of those weapons is more powerful than a tight-knit, grass roots movement with its eye on shared vision of an inspiring future.


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113 thoughts on “The Real Reason The Permanent Political Class Is Freaking Out Over Jeremy Corbyn

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  3. I’m a corbyn supporter. But the electoral maths above is hopeful nonsense. Polling indicates particularly in England, most voters lie in the centre ground – particularly in the type of seats labour need to win. Cameron is busy gerrymandering further to his advantage. You cannot assume any more of the 74% not ready labour will a) vote b) vote labour c) exist in swing seats; with the possible exception of Scotland, which you shouldn’t assume either. Sll that without mention of the press. That said, I think jc will win labour a good chunk of its core back- perhaps for the next leader; and change the remit of the debate. Success has for too long been judged only in the short term – and the others had no chance to win anyway. So good luck to him basically.

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  5. I saw JC in the early 80s giving a talk and giving Columbian farmers a forum to help them against the drug cartels who were destroying there lives..there were 6 people in the room other than JC and the had a profound effect on see a politician who cared that much. I am very glad that he has won the vote..perhaps we have hope.

  6. In an otherwise indistinguishablefromdailymail piece on the Beeb a few nights ago, the notoriously sympathetic hard left nut-job Gyles Brandreth went out among the seething bolshie masses of central Guildford and asked people their views on university fees, higher taxes for those on over 150k, the NHS and private provision, energy and rail ownership, Trident, etc. Most respondents, at least those shown on camera, offered views 85% or more in line with Corbyn’s. When Brandreth showed them a photo of who they had supported, they reeled back in amazement/horror/self loathing. THERE’S the problem. It’s not the policies, for the most part, it’s getting people to be true to themselves and not constantly falling prey to the fear factor that ‘it can’t be done’.

  7. Toynbee on Corbyn: He has opened a floodgate of dreams, making people feel good about themselves. He is right about welfare, austerity, tax avoidance, renationalising rail and mail, Trident, housing and myriad other touchstones. He’s authentic to the tip of his beard, reassuringly no grand orator in the grandstanding George Galloway or Michael Foot tradition. At hustings he shines by offering virtue, while the rest wrestle with the wretched realities of British politics.

  8. I think that the real issue and one that has got the political class really flapping and the article clearly points out, is the fact that lots of people are are re engaging.

    If the Labour movement continues to grow and expand at it’s current rate, if ordinary people can see that there is someone who is representing them,if people feel that they can better thier lot but also repair the damage caused to the public sector, then I believe it can only end in one way. That will be a Labour win at the next election.

    The problem we all face in the short term is what will be left.

    I believe most people can see through the politicians we have now and are saying enough is enough. We want change. I believe the Labour party with Corbyn in charge can deliver that change.

  9. Can Corbyn’s proposals even be considered radical when for the most part a majority of the population agrees with him? Radical in the sense he represents major change, but not changing the beliefs of voters, properly representing them instead. Polly Toynbee even admits his policies are good ones, but she thinks the wider electorate will disagree. Well the Toynbee view isn’t backed up by opinion polls. Corbyn always voices popular opinion. It’s a populist left movement and truly democratic in that sense – popular policies win votes. Corbyn exemplifies people power in action and is saying what most of us are thinking.

  10. Ultimately who cares. His policies such as connecting public spending directly to freely printed money are so obviously stupid no one sane will vote for them. This often happens in a recession- the splintering of the left. The SNP are just another splinter caused by devolution. What the Coopers on Kendalls of the world don’t get is Blair only got the hard left to behave by promising economic stability, electoral success and internal democracy. Now all those covenants have been broken (give every fool a vote is not one member one vote) with the Iraq War as cherry on top there is no reason for people to act “sensibly”… After all where has it got them? I’m off anyway I don’t support parties who’s economic policies are not just stupid but downright dangerous. If I wanted an inflationary boom I’d ask David Cameron to get Nigel Lawson back from the House of Lords.

    • If Corbyn’s economic policies were stupid, they would not be freaking out and would be allowing his policies to hang him. Even conservatives have agreed that there is A “Magic Money Tree” but Cameron refuses to use it as he would rather carry on feediing the public Thatcherite lies to serve himself and his mates only. Corbyn is bringing power back to the people with his common sense ideology. They fear him because, unlike them, he is not power hungry.

      • Dont be deluded. There’s only one economic reality anyone needs to understand and it’s this: if it sounds too good to be true it probably is. There will come a reckoning for QE just as there came a reckoning for sub-prime mortages. Governments say “we’re only going to do a bit of QE for stimulus in an emergency” but QE is a drug and they tend to become dependent on it. Instead of solving the causes of deflation it is the fiscal equivalent of getting drunk to forget that you are poor. A bit of QE might make people feel better in short term and have some kind of placebo effect but its not going to turn the economy round on its own.

        The good thing I would say for JC is that at least he always looks and sounds upbeat. That’s what people want in a depression. I’m just waiting for him to say “there is nothing to fear but fear its self” …

        • firstly, QE is already being done, it is just it is going to the banks and the financial and housing markets. Why is house price inflation, resulting in an absurd bubble, ok, but wage inflation is not? because that is what we have now. This is the cause of what is effectively social cleansing, this is the cause of much of state benefits to be too high (housing benefit), this is the cause of intergenerational economic inequality, and many more problems. But this is not included in the inflation measure which changed from RPI to CPI a while back, excluding housing. Do you realise that by the official measure, according to the remit of the Bank of England, that we are at risk of deflation right now? Also, significantly higher Inflation in the short term might not be all bad. It would erode the value of debt massively, one of the biggest problems in the economy right now. that is because it works retrospectively unlike interest rate cuts. In fact, a hefty amount of QE could be just the thing to balance out the necessary interest rate rises which need to come sooner or later. It is a key observation of “Modern Monetary theorists” that debt and inflation are somewhat interchangeable in a modern fiat currency economy. And we are below our inflation target and need to invest some money in the economy. So not the end of the world if we create a bit rather than borrow even more, which is the only alternative other than tax rises. Inflation is actually easier to manipulate than debt in many ways.

          The key point is that inflation is only a problem when demand runs away with itself. Right now, the problem is demand spluttering to a halt. An overheating economy would be better than a stagnant one. We need to invest in real tangible things in the economy and everything else is secondary to that. If we do that we will get growth. Cuts will only continue the death spiral.

          • “Also, significantly higher Inflation in the short term might not be all bad” Famous last words. The government should at least have an inflation target. The problem is it is easy to say a bit of inflation wont hurt… but it’s not easy to control inflation. The higher inflation goes the harder it is to control as people stop using currency which creates a positive feedback loop. To prevent this drastic fiscal measures then need to be depolyed like massively raising interest rates.

            “Inflation is actually easier to manipulate than debt”

            Inflation is not easy to manipulate. History is littered with politicians who thought it was. If you want to put your finger in the electric light socket again to find out it hurts go right ahead but personally I’ll give it a miss…

            “An overheating economy would be better than a stagnant one”

            In the medium term perhaps but in the longer term it would lead us to an even deeper economic disaster. You think things can’t get worse? Things can. A lot worse.

      • No, it’s stupid when the Tories do it to … the Japanese have been buying their own gilts for years on end to zero practical effect except to make their currency a joke and the USA are now on QE package number 3. The more you do it the more the argument that you’re just buying your own gilts and can unroll it becomes more and more laughable. It’s straight out the Milton Freidman handbook of stupid economic ideas. I don’t know why all you socialists think there’s anything left wing about it at all… you may as well ask Cameron to invite Nigel Lawson back from the House of Lords. It’s the ultimate “economic neoliberalism” idea … oh there’s a problem with the economy let’s drop some money from a helicopter … that’ll sort it!

        It’s like jump starting a car with no petrol in it. You can get it to go a short distance but if the tank’s empty it’ll just stop again. QE is a short term sticking plaster to hide a long term problem. The problem is too much cheap money. The solution – make money by typing a number into a computer? I don’t think so. Do you? Really?

        • Good one for citing friedman : I know the eighties revival is apace but really? He’s empirically out of fashion. It’s all about gramsci and keynes these days. (Us 3rd round QE Looks pretty good to me- are you reading the telegraph in between niall Ferguson atm?) And the car/petrol analogy particularly doesn’t work for mf.

    • Cameron is scaremongering because he is afraid. If they continue to behave like this they will lose. Is not singing the national anthem a huge issue in comparison with the issues facing thousands with regard to mental health cuts and. 80000 London homes empty while people are homeless. Cameron is plain out of touch giving knighthoods to corrupt cronies with duck houses.

    • Because the Tories’ economics are working out so well for us? Austerity is impeding growth while their approach to tax and spend is heightening inequalities. Investing money in job creation and public services will put more money in people’s pockets, creating demand, and – given how depressed demand currently is – give back to the economy with a substantial multiplier. I consider my vote for him to be a sane one.

    • So, you’re saying that when Cameron freely prints money out of thin air to give trillions to banks to give a tiny fraction of it to people, that’s stable economic policy. But if we give one tenth of that directly to people, without wasting any on bank CEOs on the way, that’s somehow inflationary.

      I think you need to go away and study where money comes from a little more.

      Economists do not agree with you.

      • “So, you’re saying that when Cameron freely prints money out of thin air to give trillions to banks to give a tiny fraction of it to people, that’s stable economic policy. But if we give one tenth of that directly to people, without wasting any on bank CEOs on the way, that’s somehow inflationary.”

        No, I’m saying that the Tories QE policy is stupid and inflationary – that is after all the point of it …an attempt to prevent deflation. And what McDonnell and Richard Murphy have done is to take this stupid policy and attempt to make it even more stupid. There are many many many examples of countries who have ruined their economies by printing free money to fund projects and instead created rapid inflational positive feedback loops that have ruined their economies. This is a stupid policy whatever the ideology of the government that enacts it is. Although economics can be seen through different ideological prisms there is somewhere such a thing as objective economic truth and this policy flies in the face of it. It is either chrematophobia or it’s just not thought through. You wont defeat austerity by competing with Tories to come up with daft policies.

      • QE is a stupid policy. The people’s QE is an even stupider policy. I have no idea why the Labour party feels it has to compete with Tories in coming up with even stupider policies but that is what it is doing. If you ask me John McDonnell and Richard Murphy are snake oil salesmen
        They have simply found a new generation who are too young to have enjoyed the wonders of inflationary economics. To quote Joseph Stiglitz “anyone putting their hope in QE is just wrong”
        It is a nonsense. Indeed most people are so economically illiterate they slag it off as economic neoliberalism without even realising helicopter money is actually a monetarist policy of the kind Geoffrey Howe might have pursued. There are many alternative paths and solutions to “austerity” but this particular one is at best a cul-de-sac and at worst an accident waiting to happen.

    • I do believe you are one of the many have become completely naive to how politics in this country truly works. Gobbling up the smoke we are fed daily.

      Since Cameron and our current Tory government have been in power the UK’s deficit is larger than it ever was during the last period of Labour government. Said deficit continues to worsen under the Tories unlike the slow and steady growth Labour managed to accomplish before them, a truth well hidden behind the smoke mentioned earlier.

      The economy has been more stable and “safe” under the last Labour government than it has ever been whilst a Tory majority sit in the commons, before or since last Labour.

      This “magic tree of money” reference refers to the public. The government can borrow every penny it needs directly from the public, through a properly regulated publicly owned banking system, incurring a 0% interest rate on any money borrowed. Instead they choose to borrow from corporate banks with their completely irrational interest fees, deliberately putting the UK in debt, forcing us the public to surrender to ridiculous inflation rates to pay of a debt that could have easily been avoided. All this to fabricate money from thin air which stays lining the pockets of the richest 1%. Anyone with a basic understanding of economics knows that Money is debt and that true wealth is measured not by how much one has, but through how much one is owed. 99% of Tory voters themselves are completely oblivious to the fact that the economy as it stands depends entirely on creating debt. The most unstable and backwards economy one could imagine.

      Onto the man himself, Corbyn. This article has hit the nail directly on the head, the United Kingdom being the legally registered corporation it is, is out to make a profit. Parliament being essentially the board consisting of trustees and the like – making decisions to fulfil the “money must for some reason always travel up” corporate mantra. All the trustees have to do is manage the public, it’s workers, and make sure they behave. They have it just right at the minute, people are comfortable enough not to care too much about the running of their country without being so comfortable that they begin to get lazy and stop working. Cameron got a little too greedy and pushed that tad too far with his austerity measures. Upsetting the delicate balancing act that is order. When things go wrong the first people that feel it are the poorest, then the effects work themselves upwards. You see, this is the problem with an economy dependent on growth, if the money passes upward so do the ailments of the most neglected, the more people neglected, the less money there is at the bottom to feed the top. The Tory’s can’t seem to grasp this and continue to attempt to build the metaphoric building that is the UK from roof down whilst our foundations crumble away. Corbyn is in essence a product of Cameron and his parties own greed being essentially forced out of the woodwork by their choice to harden the austerity. He represents a growing majority of the public. Almost all the non voters who had given up on politics – because generally despite who ever gains power their lives are still shit – now have a reason to vote again, all the students and younger generations from average or under privileged backgrounds are being shown someone who can potentially improve their lives tenfold, anyone who is against war now has an open pacifist in a position of influence, all the Labour voters that have moved over to LIb dems or green, etc in recent years because of Labours centralist stand now have a party they can believe in again. The Politicians and corporate press have every right to panic, before them stands a man of the people with the power to reignite the publics passion in politics. This could potentially be very bad for business, the economy would stabilise, the debt would decrease and less money would make it to the top of the ladder with more in the hands of the people that need it most.
      The more panicked the government and press become, the more damage they try and do to Corbyn the bigger threat he is evidentially. People aren’t as stupid as they’re made out to be, they can sense that the attack on him stems from a place of fear rather than honesty.

      The sad thing is for the top to become stable economically money must circulate around the roots for a while first, healing it’s way up. I can’t see people having the patience to let this happen.

  11. Incidentally an estimated 22% of the potentially eligible people voted Conservative because an estimated 2% didn’t or couldn’t register to vote.

  12. You seem confused about the term “social democrat”. That’s how Tony Blair described himself, and not how most people would describe Jeremy Corbyn. He describes himself as “democratic socialist”.

  13. There is only one small thing wrong with your piece but it is a fundamental one. Corbyn is a ‘democratic socialist’ not a ‘social democrat’, the establishment would prefer it if he was a social democrat.

  14. If Labour gets behind the unions, and pulls of major industrial action, it could destroy the Tories even though they are in gov’. Imagine nurses and Doctors refusing to work for privatized hospitals. Imagine ordinary citizens withholding their council taxes, en masse. The army and the police are going to be reduced to near impotism’ by ongoing cuts so whose gonna’ in a Thatcherly manner impose the Tories will. Its all looking quite interesting. Ok I’m not particularly bright, and I’m quite often wrong, but I’ve never been as wrong as pre-Corbyn Labour was. Also, I am one of Labours supporters who went Green, and joined. I didn’t rejoin Labour just to get Corbyn in as I considered that unethical but am once again feeling that Labour represents me. Who knows, in a year I’ll be seriously rethinking my membership. Very seriously.

  15. I see little evidence of the conservatives freaking out. They are approaching this new development with a cold workmanlike professionalism. They have mused, comsidered and strategised. And now they have started the hard work of endless interviews to discredit labour and assassinate corbyn a character.

    Success will rely on a movement that changes the rules of the game so dramatically these previously effective strategies are nullified.

    I’m hopeful but not optimistic.

    • I think the evidence is that even the BBC is asking Daily-Mail-type questions; they’ve clearly been well briefed by the totires, and they’re scouring under every rock for any dissent within labour. One of the best examples being an interview with Dennis Skinner – he was clearly supportive of Corbyn, but Emily Maitliss closed with “He has refused to serve in Corbyn’s cabinet” … Dennis had to interrupt her and put her straight.
      I agree that there’s a co-ordinate, professional approach … but there’s also an air of panic ‘we have to nobble him now, before it’s too late’ … which, of course, makes them (and the BBC) look very, very scared indeed.

    • The problem is saying the same things over and over gets boring for most people. Over 5 years in and still they blame Labour for the economy.. it’s getting to be a real drag. Record employment but reduced productivity, record employment but reduced tax receipts, welfare bill, despite all the cuts, not being lowered but merely shuffled around from central government to local government picking up the pieces.

      Watching question time last night was a point in fact, same old Tory lines and same old scripted speech about security blah blah blah I wasn’t even surprised at the questions that were asked it was so obvious it was going to be an attack on Labour not a discussion. .

      Jeremy Corbyn is as electable or unelectable as every party leader before him, Tory or Labour, it’s not up to the media to pronounce this but the public at large.

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      • presumably the beeb is asking mail type questions is with an eye to the present govt who will be rewriting its constitution?
        also the diversity of response to the election of jezza suggests something good is happening and as we are all in this(eeking out an economic existence) together a lean towards socialism and fairness is no bad thing- not to mention the considerable evidence demonstrating equal and fair societies have better health.

  18. I think New Labour got in because of Murdoch’s involvement. What will Rupert do about this turn of events?
    I just hope that in the next 5 years Mr Corbyn will keep safe, the world desperately needs folk like Corbyn and Tom Watson. Murdoch’s influence on world politics are still being horribly and vastly underestimated.

  19. You really have to learn to talk to the electorate at large if you want to be taken seriously. Otherwise it’s just a bunch of like minded people nodding sagely to themselves in a village hall. Likewise it’s no use allowing the membership to have direct input to policy decisions if all you get is decisions by activists rather than policy that you think the population at large might vote for. Activism tends to be inward looking and generally pisses off the electorate. Also, don’t be paranoid: the “establishment” (whoever they are, but I suspect they’re people just like me and thee) might have very good and reasonable criticisms of Corbyn and it might help to try and understand these. To dismiss them out of hand is a sign of weakness and will lead to an inability to grow as a credible political force to counter the prevailing ideology.

    • Don’t worry; Corbyn will talk to the members, the unions AND the electorate much more than any other recent labour leader. But first he has to do a lot of work at the Party Conference sorting out Labour policy. But I suspect one of the new ones will be ‘Listen to the voters’ … which will be nice.

  20. What a load of rubbish.. I am working class, grew up poor, worked in shipyards, grew up hating thatcher and the blue political class but we live in a world that needs stability.. General strikes, mass demonstration will destabilise the economy and the country and put us all back to the dark ages of the 1970’s and 1980’s.. Learn from history or it will repeat itself and kick your head in.. We do need to change but we must be very careful of radical socialism..

    • Many of us have learnt from the history of Margaret Thatcher’s government, which started the campaign against the ordinary people and don’t want to repeat it.

    • I haven’t really seen any evidence that they want to kick off with general strikes or the like, the most ‘radical’ tactic they have mentioned is talking to people and trying to encourage people to think about what they want for their community/business etc

  21. I believe the political elite are afraid of Jeremy because he is incorruptible & not ‘for sale’ at any price. He doesn’t ask us to agree with all his beliefs, just to consider them.He believes in true democracy & fairness. As a labour voter all my life, until this last election I can’t recall a time in the last 60yrs when someone has been able to mobilise young people enough to now want to vote & have a say. I have never seen a leadership campaign where more people want to attend the meetings than it is possible to accommodate. What Jeremy is bringing is a message of change, a message of hope & best of all he speaks the truth.

  22. Irving Washington, the social system of this country is built on the backs of the working classes. We are the ones who have spent years to disaffected with the political system to bother voting and we’re gonna turn out to vote now. Watch this space!

  23. Where is the evidence that Labour Party members are actually going to be involved in policy formation (like what happens in the Green Party). This article implies that this will happen, but it appears to be based on wishful thinking more than anything else.

    • He has, or will, be changing the way the Labour party fundamentally operates, and it will (for want of a better term) devolve some power further towards the rank and file. It’s not that he’s just promising to be nice and inclusive.

    • From Jeremy Corbyn: “So, help me be your representative. When I stand at the despatch box for Prime Minister’s Questions on Wednesday, I want to be your voice.

      What do you want to ask David Cameron? Tell me now and I will put your questions to him in parliament. My questions will be your questions.”

      Well, that seems like a good place to start.

  24. God we need a new paper of the left but if you don’t mind me saying, I don’t think the Canary is a good name for a paper – call it the New Herald, it has a more authoritative tone to it

  25. Please, please grow up. This is never gonna happen, if corbyns opposition makes it to 2020 it will be steamrollered – if milliband was too left wing for the electorate then what makes you think will endear a rebellious socialist to the 61.5mill voters in the uk that aren’t labour members? Just because a load of disenfranchised people joined in on the latest buzz and voted corbyn in to labour leader and you see it in your social media feeds every five seconds doesn’t mean everyone in the uk wants it, and it’s both naive and narcissistic to assume so. You are living in an echo chamber. This is before we get to his dubious company, potentially catastrophic economic ideas and ill advised ministers, along with a pacifistic stance that will worry the electorate (people generally like to feel safe, or at least the have the illusion of it).

    He is uncompromising and a man of principle and I admire that, but this is not going to win him power in any way. Tony Blair realised this and compromised, and I’m afraid history is about to repeat itself. And no, just because you hate Tony Blair doesn’t make him any less right. You have to meet people in the middle and JC does not do that. It will be his downfall, and my only hope is that he does not destroy the labour party in the process.

    • A very interesting analysis, but it misses one key point. At the General Election, UKIP came from nowhere and had 12.6% of the vote, which equalled all the votes for the Liberals and the SNP put together. UKIP are the fifth largest party, with more than double the membership of the SNP. The article above does not mention UKIP anywhere, but it is wishful thinking to pretend they do not exist. Like them or hate them, it is the English UKIP voters who must be won over, and ignoring them will not make them go away. When the euphoria over JC’s democratic triumph subsides, it will be interesting to see if enough Kippers are sufficiently convinced by the marginalisation of the Hamptead and Islington New Labour class, to make them change the balance of power back to the Labour Party. I think they might. JC has a mighty task ahead of him, but the extraordinary success of UKIP and the SNP should give him hope – both demonstrated that the mood of the electorate is volatile and all the old certainties are gone…. Radical policies can win it, but will they have convince an electorate which lurched to the right only a few months ago. It is all to play for.

    • Like many, I hope you’re wrong. The *reason* you might be wrong is because there’s no-one mainstream occupying that bit of the political spectrum (in English politics). This means he could have a very large ‘catchment area’.

      I guess the question becomes whether he can entice enough people in the political centre…

      There may have been a few reasons Milliband failed. I don’t think it was just that he was ‘too left wing’.

    • Milliband wasn’t too left for the electorate.he wasn’t left enough.time will tell what public will favour, but if the left leaning parties consolidate and show alliance and a willingness to work together, unlike millibands labour, and if that engages a younger vote then the right will have something to worry about.the right will fight, hard fast and dirty, but they may not win.we’ll have to see.its certainly not going to make their journey an easy one if public and parties galvanise behind corbyns labour with shared values.this depends mainly on how resiliant they can be to the inevitable British media onslaught which may well be persistent and unforgiving throughout. If the majority of the British public truly are vacuous, image orientated, and easily swayed by and susceptible to fear mongering as pedalled by aforementioned media, then the right might have a stronger chance. But I’d like to think the majority of Brits, and not just its peripheries, have integrity and a heart. We’ll have to see how nihilistic the right, the establishment and its media will become in the pursuit of absolute power.

    • That’s assuming that people didn’t vote Labour last time because Ed Miliband was “too left wing”. But the conversations I had with floating voters before the election told a different story: the message was that no-one knew who he stood for, he was ‘bland’ – some even said that they didn’t like his face. Spurious perhaps, but demonstrating not a fear of the left but an apathy with more of the same. The words “out of touch” came up again and again. For these reasons alone, Corbyn stands a chance. But if Labour is to stand a chance, the party needs to get behind him and accept basic democratic process.

    • You lean on the assumption “if Milliband was too left wing”. Labour lost the votes of all these newly engaged people because it wasn’t left wing enough, so your analysis us based on an assumption that has been shown to be incorrect.

    • “if milliband was too left wing for the electorate then…”

      You do realise that the numbers don’t reflect that as the reason they lost, right? All the evidence suggests that they lost ground due to not being left-wing *enough*: vis the unexpected electoral rise of the Greens and the SNP, which is where Labour really lost. Most new Tory seats came from the LDs, not Labour. Anti-austerity platforms did *astonishingly* well in this election; and 65% of voters cast their votes against the Tories.

    • Your reply is based on saying that Labour lost the election because “milliband was too left wing for the electorate”. This is wrong in so many ways. His Labour party didn’t come across as remotely left wing, socialist or anything else even slightly resembling an alternative to the Tories. They came across as a disorganised watered down version of the Tories which left everyone (including most of the people who did actually vote for them) very disillusioned with them.

      Finally right/left is too rigid a way of looking at the political spectrum anyway. But that is a debate for another day :)

    • UKIP gained 12%+ of votes in the last election largely because they appealed to the ‘ordinary man in the street’ by being straightforward about their policies, despite the fact that their policies are actually far, far right of the personal stance of many of their voters.

      Corbyn may be coming from the left, but he has already installed a cabinet that includes many from the right of the party. If they can maintain that balance, along with Corbyn’s open and straight-forward style, they could be serious contenders in 2020 and provide a strong opposition in the meantime.

    • Milliband moved very very moderately to the left. Result? The share of the popular vote increased. That’s right – increased. Labour made great losses not against the Tories, but against the SNP. Was that really because he was “too left wing”? Think about it.

    • I think you miss the point about the last election. Milliband had no credibility as a person. The idea of him being PM frightened the life out of people. JC a very different kettle of fish. But as I think you feel, of course people were scared about the Economy going down again and Cameron uses that word non-stop like a mantra to maximum advantage even at PMQs yesterday. People didn’t vote for Cameron the person. Whatever Corbyn supporters feel, Immigration is also a major electoral issue. I don’t think he’s anywhere near “cracking” that one yet. The EU vote is definitely going to be “rocky” as Cameron has said. People are not unreasonably concerned about suicidal psychopathic religious fanatics too.

  26. I hope he can match David Cameron’s rhetoric in Parliament. Corbyn and the left are singing a great song, off the same hymn sheet, but we want and need to hear somebody stand up to Cameron and his cronies, who, incidentally, are nowhere near as good at political speaking in public. One of the reasons that Labour did so badly at the last general election, was the feeble performance of Ed Miliband across the floor of the house. How many times did David Cameron Say ” We inherited the dire state of the economy caused by Labour’s borrowing…” , and the Labour front bench just sat there looking glum, as if they believed it!

  27. Not a bad analysis; but I suspect you are overthinking it. It’s about Blair & his gang, who ‘reformed’ the labour party until it was unrecognizable, thinking that opportunistically stealing tory voters when they were at there weakest meant Labour could steal their ground forever. Cameron’s rise has shown that the tories can and have recovered – labour needs to regain their own territory or die. No country needs two tory parties. Corbyn’s honesty, integrity and staying power through the bad years made him a perfect candidate – and New Labour were arrogant and stupid enough not to see that he could win.

    • Oh spot on. I could never understand why Labour thought that aping the Tories was a good long term plan.

      You need a genuinely different voice to the elected party to be a real opposition.

  28. Small point, but… In what sense was Toynbee character assassinating Corbyn in that article?

    And while on Toynbee, in what sense is she the self-appointed voice of the left? She could well be the appointed voice of the left, though.

    • No, Toynbee’s the official voice of the tory-lite new labour. Not a lot to do with the left, whatever the ‘chattering classes’ guardian tells you.

      • “Not a lot to do with the left” Really? You’re exaggerating to the point of silliness. Are you aware of the political spectrum in the UK?

        Also I’ve never understood, or understood the snobbishness, around the ‘chattering class’. In fact I’ll go further and say it doesn’t exist as a cohesive demographic group. It’s meaningless.

        So spell it out for me… people who went to Uni aren’t allowed to be in favour of nationalisation of the rail.

        Townies who work in Media can’t be for a decent living wage?

        What’s the issue… that they’re hypocrites because they don’t work down t’pit?

        • Of course they’re allowed to – the trouble is many of the ‘senior’ Labourites who have been consistently briefing against Corbyn are part of that wonderful, patronising, group of ‘we know best’ armchair socialists, who always have an opinion, but rarely have a clue.
          Educated, professional ‘lefties’ don’t HAVE to be out of touch, or Tory under the skin – but tragically, most of them are. And the Guardian is positively oozing with them.
          You’re welcome to be a Toynbee fan – just don’t kid yourself that she’s far left of Tony Blair, because she isn’t. She’s as horrified as the rest of the Guardian clique that Corbyn won, despite their ‘anyone but Corbyn campaign’ – Oh. Sorry – you’d forgotten that already.
          I’m well aware of the ‘left right’ spectrum – Corbyn is soft left; even Ken Livingstone hasn’t been hard left since 1984 – you’re following Daily Mail classifications, rather than Mr Marx, I fear.
          Anyone can support Labour – though from your sneers, I’m guessing you’ve ruled yourself out.

  29. at last, some hope with a proper Labour Party,with proper socialist stop people being ripped
    off with more privatisation which only benefits shareholders,when will people learn ?
    the first things i hope to see in his manifesto are the re-nationalisation of railways,gas,electricity,water,cap on rents,the doing away with sanctions on benefits,and tuition fees which only puts young people into debt
    before they have started out in life.
    i shall even vote Labour again after having abstained in the last 2 General Elections,because of the Tory
    Lites in the Labour Party.

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  31. Good write-up. Media and Tories scared. No wonder they try to attack Corbyn on every front. And more often than not, people realise they are doing so, in a non-sensical way, which in turn givrs even more suport to Labour.

  32. One of the things I don’t understand is that I remember being down at the Occupy London camp for couple of weekends, and seeing Polly Toynbee speak, and from what I can see everything that Corbyn is saying does have large elements of Occupy thinking to it (he’s openly talking with Richard Murphy re: tax and economics for an example of what I mean)

    I’m confused how the Guardian has very directly taken an anti-Corbyn stance at odds to a lot of it’s readership. It’s almost like what has just happened in Labour with regards to its membership is playing out with the Guardian and its readership.

    • The guardian has not been ‘left wing’ for 30 years; and since blair, they’ve been ‘new labour’; Labour In Name Only – tory-lite. They represent armchair socialists from the professional class; not real people who have actually felt tory cuts.

    • I haven’t read a lot of what the Grauniad said about Corbyn, but I didn’t get the feeling they were anti-him. Can you share a link that shows this?

      (The blog author also said how they carried out a character assassination of him.. The Graunie wouldn’t character assassinate Jimmy Saville, so I doubt they would say much nasty about Corbyn.)

      • Take your pick – there has been an anti-Corbyn story most days for the past three months. If you want to read it – anything by Toynbee (founder member of the SDP in the 1980s, helping to keep Thatcher in government) or Behr for starters.

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  34. As I’ve pointed out before, Ed Miliband and Nick Clegg fought the election chiefly over the centre-right ground, and it was carpet-bombed by the electorate. It’s cowardly of Labour to be so reluctant to move away from it.

    • Read a story today quoting Osbourne as saying Labour are deserting the centre to move back to the left. The issue ALL mainstream Labour politicians seem to have missed is that Labour moved far right of centre with Tory Blair … this isn’t a movement all that far to the left, it’s a retaking of the deserted centre and a possible credible opposition instead of Tory lite. Labour didn’t lose ground to the Tories last election, they lost ground to the people who didn’t want to vote Tory by not being discernably any different.
      People like Burnham who say I will believe in what I think the electorate will vote for is exactly what Corbyn is saying people are tired of. He stands up and says ‘I believe this, vote for me if you like’ not by proposing to prostitute his beliefs for whatever he thinks will win power at any cost. There SHOULD be no such thing as a professional politician

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